Comentários sobre: Second Life is not a learning environment… but why not? http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/ antes pato que gato-sapato Tue, 10 May 2022 22:05:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Por: De Mattar » Blog Archive » O Second Life morreu? (a velha questão que não morre…) http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-35153 De Mattar » Blog Archive » O Second Life morreu? (a velha questão que não morre…) Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:27:59 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-35153 [...] Como uma das críticas comuns ao Second Life é que ele não oferece o controle necessário para os Ambientes de Aprendizagem, escrevi em 02/2008: Second Life is not a learning environment… but why not?. Em 04/2008 escrevi o Sermão para Converter o Educador Brasileiro ao Second Life. Desenvolvi também uma série de tutoriais para novatos no Second Life. [...] [...] Como uma das críticas comuns ao Second Life é que ele não oferece o controle necessário para os Ambientes de Aprendizagem, escrevi em 02/2008: Second Life is not a learning environment… but why not?. Em 04/2008 escrevi o Sermão para Converter o Educador Brasileiro ao Second Life. Desenvolvi também uma série de tutoriais para novatos no Second Life. [...]

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]]> Por: De Mattar » EDTECH 597: Teaching and Learning in Second Life - 11th Class - April 03, 2008 http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5964 De Mattar » EDTECH 597: Teaching and Learning in Second Life - 11th Class - April 03, 2008 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:51:07 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5964 [...] Comentário de Clark Aldrich: Top Ten Missing Features of Second Life as an Educational Simulation Platform, uma lista de 10 itens que faltam ao SL, para ser considerado um ambiente de aprendizagem. Preciso agora meditar sobre a lista para escrever uma segunda versão do meu: Second Life is not a learning environment… but why not? [...] [...] Comentário de Clark Aldrich: Top Ten Missing Features of Second Life as an Educational Simulation Platform, uma lista de 10 itens que faltam ao SL, para ser considerado um ambiente de aprendizagem. Preciso agora meditar sobre a lista para escrever uma segunda versão do meu: Second Life is not a learning environment… but why not? [...]

]]> Por: Suize http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5383 Suize Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:02:33 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5383 I agree. ALL environments are learning environments. The attitude of the learner (and receptivity) are more influential over the statement "SL is not a learning environment." How about, "I am not willing to learn in SL" instead? I agree. ALL environments are learning environments. The attitude of the learner (and receptivity) are more influential over the statement “SL is not a learning environment.” How about, “I am not willing to learn in SL” instead?

]]> Por: Prof. VALENTE http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5381 Prof. VALENTE Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:01:23 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5381 Sacanagem JOÃO, vc não referenciou o nosso livro a respeito ... (rsrsrsrsrs !!) Que bacana ter essa discussão em INGLÊS, e seria interessante que eles soubessem que nós defendemos essas idéias no nosso livro "SECOND LIFE e WEB 2.0 na EDUCAÇÃO". Vamos ver se a gente traduz rapidamente tudo isso para a língua do Tio Sam ... Obs.: sugiro JOÃO colocar trechos do nosso livro aonde discutimos esses pontos, e algumas das imagens a respeito ... acho que enriqueceria mais ainda o nível da discussão !! Sacanagem JOÃO, vc não referenciou o nosso livro a respeito … (rsrsrsrsrs !!)
Que bacana ter essa discussão em INGLÊS, e seria interessante que eles soubessem que nós defendemos essas idéias no nosso livro “SECOND LIFE e WEB 2.0 na EDUCAÇÃO”. Vamos ver se a gente traduz rapidamente tudo isso para a língua do Tio Sam …
Obs.: sugiro JOÃO colocar trechos do nosso livro aonde discutimos esses pontos, e algumas das imagens a respeito … acho que enriqueceria mais ainda o nível da discussão !!

]]> Por: João Mattar http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5380 João Mattar Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:21:36 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5380 03:08] meeboguest504809: thank you for taking pitty on the americans who barly speak english. I've one thINKg to sway: ALL environments.. are learning environments. the teachers simply have to learn to let go of outmoded forms of forrums to grasp beyond the chalkboard. [03:15] (^Edwound Wisent: creating a dyslexicon may be of more use than the trunkating of multiple learning curves and formattes. There are some things best learned by the LACK of experiance.. and the missing of marked parameters. experimentation and epiphanies are harder to come by if eWE stay latched and locked to "THE RULES". Necessity may be the mother of invention, but intervention is the father of isolation. 03:08] meeboguest504809: thank you for taking pitty on the americans who barly speak english. I’ve one thINKg to sway: ALL environments.. are learning environments. the teachers simply have to learn to let go of outmoded forms of forrums to grasp beyond the chalkboard.
[03:15] (^Edwound Wisent: creating a dyslexicon may be of more use than the trunkating of multiple learning curves and formattes. There are some things best learned by the LACK of experiance.. and the missing of marked parameters. experimentation and epiphanies are harder to come by if eWE stay latched and locked to “THE RULES”. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but intervention is the father of isolation.

]]> Por: João Mattar http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5378 João Mattar Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:38:34 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5378 Eri, vou começar a escrever um pouco em inglês, isso fará com que outras pessoas (que não lêem português) possam participar também das discussões. Mas pode comentar em português! Eri, vou começar a escrever um pouco em inglês, isso fará com que outras pessoas (que não lêem português) possam participar também das discussões. Mas pode comentar em português!

]]> Por: Eri http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5377 Eri Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:33:44 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5377 Oi João, internacionalizou geral agora . Ainda não li o post todo, farei a leitura e depois os comentários. Só não sei se darei conta de comentar em inglês rsrsrs . um coisa é certa...vou melhorar meu inglês bastante lendo seus posts. ah! o evento no second life será hoje às 20h, se puder divulgar para o grupo eu agradeço. Abs Oi João, internacionalizou geral agora .
Ainda não li o post todo, farei a leitura e depois os comentários. Só não sei se darei conta de comentar em inglês rsrsrs . um coisa é certa…vou melhorar meu inglês bastante lendo seus posts.

ah! o evento no second life será hoje às 20h, se puder divulgar para o grupo eu agradeço.
Abs

]]> Por: Jan Herder http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5375 Jan Herder Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:12:27 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5375 Bon dia Joao, obrigado for your thoughtful post. The immersive nature of virtual worlds is very exciting. As a pedagogical environment it has great potential to create student centered and motivated environments where the role of the facilitator/ educator has gone through a paradigm shift. What strikes me as especially sad is that we have had to go to virtual worlds to rediscover our physical world--our classrooms. After all, our schools are immersive environments, but the pedagogy is what has separated the learner from their surroundings. The implications of the shift from student as consumer to student as contributor threatens the monopoly of knowledge that academia has maintained. (Since the middle ages, just as the church) Assessment tools are evolving as our consciousness changes. I just discovered one excellent example of a student centered universal instructional design environment where the 'teacher' is now mentor -- https://www.globalchallenge.org. And I would highly recommend this to motivated pre-college students if they wish to participate in the new literacy. Bon dia Joao, obrigado for your thoughtful post. The immersive nature of virtual worlds is very exciting. As a pedagogical environment it has great potential to create student centered and motivated environments where the role of the facilitator/ educator has gone through a paradigm shift. What strikes me as especially sad is that we have had to go to virtual worlds to rediscover our physical world–our classrooms. After all, our schools are immersive environments, but the pedagogy is what has separated the learner from their surroundings. The implications of the shift from student as consumer to student as contributor threatens the monopoly of knowledge that academia has maintained. (Since the middle ages, just as the church) Assessment tools are evolving as our consciousness changes. I just discovered one excellent example of a student centered universal instructional design environment where the ‘teacher’ is now mentor — https://www.globalchallenge.org. And I would highly recommend this to motivated pre-college students if they wish to participate in the new literacy.

]]> Por: João Mattar http://joaomattar.com/blog/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5374 João Mattar Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:57:08 +0000 http://blog.joaomattar.com/2008/02/20/second-life-is-not-a-learning-environment-but-why-not/#comment-5374 Thanks for the comment, Paul. This was my first post in English and, so, the first reaction to it. You won a prize (lol). Recently I read a post at ReadWriteWeb,Why You Should Let Users Define Your App. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/let_users_define_your_app.php It is a small post that talks a lot about Twitter and does not refer directly to education, however I believe we can extend the ideas to teaching and learning. What happens if we leave behind our need for rigid control and let our students create unique ways for their learning, and produce knowledge and content that we had not predicted? Something like: Why You Should Let Students Define your Teaching! What is your island? Can I visit it? Thanks for the comment, Paul. This was my first post in English and, so, the first reaction to it. You won a prize (lol).
Recently I read a post at ReadWriteWeb,Why You Should Let Users Define Your App.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/let_users_define_your_app.php
It is a small post that talks a lot about Twitter and does not refer directly to education, however I believe we can extend the ideas to teaching and learning.
What happens if we leave behind our need for rigid control and let our students create unique ways for their learning, and produce knowledge and content that we had not predicted? Something like: Why You Should Let Students Define your Teaching!
What is your island? Can I visit it?

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